question REnoise

[riz]

vais essayer de te bricoler ça avec max
je promets rien...

[cindy cenobyte]

ben te prends peut etre pas la tete, ca doit bien exister un truc pareil
ce serait l' equivalent du WaveIn de Buzz

sinon quelqu' un a réussi à poser des automations sur des VSTI?
attation les VSTI hein, les effets VST ça va ...

[JeRe]

oui
enfait pour lesautomations
c comme pour les effets
tu te mets sur dsp
et tu choisis meta device  
dans la colonne effet
vsti
la tu choisis ton vsti et zou  

[cindy cenobyte]

ah yep merci je vais tester ça !    

[rugerro dildo]

à quoi donc peut bien servir les trucs entourés en rouge? (le capt instrument), et le mapping midi , pour, par example assigner un cc à un autre, genre avec le meta midi, je me suis arreté au clic droit sur les controleur vst, puis midi mapping, bref j'capte pas bien le fonctionement du midi pour renoise, meme avec le wiki!

[rugerro dildo]

bin alors, j'ai plus d'amis supra doués en mao pour combler mais lacunes?

[riz]

euh je sais pas, doit forcément y'avoir quelque chose à ce sujet dans la doc sur le site de renoise ...

capture instrument c'est pas pour sauvegarder ton sample avec les effets et l'enveloppe appliqué dessus ?

[JeRe]

la version 2.0 est sortie

perso je resterais a la 1.9 mais y'a quand meme des fonctions interessantes pour les afficionados du vsti cracké

en autre le multipist vsti ( oui on peut sur le meme track avoir plusieur sortie differentes donc y poser deseffets differents etc ..)
moi je m'en fou j'utilise surtout du sample

While better-known software names may get the attention, Renoise, a music making tool in the mold of a tracker, has long had a lot going for it. It runs on every platform you own (Windows, Mac, Linux) with just one license, applies a unique approach to musical arrangement and composition with a more modern interface, and allows speedy production with lots of keyboard shortcuts. As a tracker, the pattern editing in Renoise allows a “granular” level of control, for quick editing in textual views instead of visual blocks as in a piano roll. Whereas some retro-styled trackers don’t support modern features, Renoise has multi-core support, MIDI, VST instruments and effects, ASIO, audio recording, built-in effects, and flexible routing and mixing. It also has a built-in sampler and sample editing, so you can do audio manipulation from within Renoise as well as make use of your suite of instruments and effects. And the whole thing costs EUR49.99.

Renoise is about to get a major 2.0 update, with support for:
An overhauled engine with better timing and precision

Plug-in delay compensation — although what’s interesting here is that this promises to impact more than just hardware DSP platforms like Universal Audio; it also “also compensates your MIDI gear and midi cables wired to other hosts.”

Audio Unit plug-ins on Mac, plus improved VST support

The AU plug-in support alone could help Renoise crack the Mac community. I also like some of the other features, including new plug-in browsing, drag-and-drop, new filters, and quantization.

We decided Renoise 2.0 would be the best time to incorporate fundamental changes. Some aspects have changed so revolutionary that it completely revitalizes the way you make music in Renoise. Moreover, this massive engine overhaul is essential for behemoth features in later releases, such as Zooming, the Arranger, Audio Tracks and a Piano Roll.

Major Features

The development of these changes was split into 3 milestones. Precision, Timing and Plugin improvements.
PDC (Plug-in Delay Compensation)

+ Full, automatic, sample precise Plugin Delay Compensation (PDC) for Track FX (native and Plugin) and Instruments (aka everything). You simply don't have to care if a VST Plugin or instrument introduces unwanted latency. Renoise will compensate it for you under the hood.

Track Delay

+ Custom track delays to easily offset MIDI/Audio tracks. For example, laying back a snare can now be done in realtime in the mixer. Same goes for "MIDI tracks" (tracks with MIDI notes).

Timing Improvement (LPB & Delay Column)

+ "Ticks" no longer limited by the engine's note resolution / "Speed" is dead:
LPB (Lines Per Beat) :

- "Speed" (this tracker compatibility thing which no one understood, but somehow made the pattern scroll faster) is finally gone. Better said, it got replaced by more powerful and easier to use LPB settings (Lines Per Beat - how many lines in the pattern make up a musical beat).
Delay Column :

- You can now offset notes and note commands with a gradient of 1/256 line precision (thats a PPQ of 4096 at LPB=16!) via a new "delay column" in the pattern editor. This might be the first time you record something in a tracker and it actually sounds exactly as groovy (or bad) as you played it!

revised Sample FX commands :

- Pitch/Volume slides, glides now work independently of the sampler's "tick" rate. For example, 0110 will pitch notes a half-note up, 0101 a sixteenth half-note, etc. Volume/panning slides on volume/panning column now work as if their value was the first digit of the corresponding command column command (f.e.: 0720 = A2) See the tutorials pages for more info about these and other effects.

Also you can smooth/coarse the pitch and volume slidings by increasing/decreasing the Tick-Per-Line value thru the effect F2xx.

ready for the future :

- NoteDelays and LPB are the most important and necessary steps for upcoming big features like Zoomable Patterns, Piano Roll, more accuracy (timing wise) with FX automations, and so on.

IMPORTANT: Not all of the changes are backwards compatible, thus only new songs can make use of all the new features. Old songs can be manually upgraded in the "Song settings" pane, but will probably need manual adjustments...
Audio Unit : (Mac OSX)

+ Mac OSX: Added support for Audio Unit (AU) Plugins (finally)
Note quantize options

+ Added note quantize options for realtime recording and Note nudge options in the Advanced Edit pane. There are also new shortcuts for realtime note quantization to quickly quantize after recording.

Full support for Multi Output VSTi (AU)

+ Multi output VSTis (AUs) are now fully supported. Samplers or Synths with multiple channels can now be routed to individual tracks.

Sending notes to VST (AU) FX

+ Sending notes to VST (AU) FX is now supported. Simply create a FX alias in the VST Instruments pane to do so (link an instrument to an existing FX).

Improved MIDI recording precision

+ Vastly improved MIDI recording precision by compensating event latencies (and of course also thanks to the new note delays / LPB settings)
Channel and Polyphonic aftertouch

+ Added support (recording and playback) for channel and polyphonic aftertouch for MIDI and VSTi instruments.

Polyphonic aftertouch is sent when specifying a volume value (velocity) after a note on (but before a note off is present). Channel aftertocuh can be send via:

"--- 01 .. C3 0020"
(This will send a aftertocuh value of 20h to the instr. 01)

Improved audio latency when recording

+ The Line-In device now lets you specify the source of the recorded audio and will apply/fix latencies, as needed.

Improved audio performance : (OSX & Linux)

+ OSX & Linux: Improved audio performance (lower latencies are possible) when running Renoise on multi-CPU machines.

Note: On Linux, you have to configure your system to allow Renoise to create realtime threads. Usually this is done via PAM. Please see the Linux FAQ for more details on how to configure your system to make use of the improvements & fixes.
Minor Features

Besides the milestones there are plenty of relatively smaller features that are nonetheless very worthwhile.
Interface / OS integration :

- Windows + OSX: Drag & Drop of external files

- Windows + OSX: Better support for Japanese and other input modes

- Renoise GUI widget cosmetics

- Tooltips do now show if a shortcut is "local"

- Hitting escape while drag & dropping cancels dragging
Linux ALSA :

- the ALSA configuration now allows changing the Periods/Buffer
Mixer :

- New helpful short names for LFO, Automate, Send and Velocity Devices (showing what they control, etc...)

Automations :

- Added a "Show only used Automations" option to the automation list

Pattern Editor :

- easier and more accurate mouse click/selection/navigation:

- single clicks jump to the pointed position (optional)

- middle click mutes / unmutes the track

- added key bindings for "delete previous line [in columns/track/pattern]" which behaves like a "backspace" in a text editor

- Rendering selections will no longer reduce the rendered volume. If you've set the master volume to 0 dB you can still lower the master volume manually to avoid clipping...

- Added separator bars for note columns

- More contrast between empty and non-empty data

- Removed the "Show Framework" option
Pattern Sequencer :

- Added a "Add new unique Pattern" function Default shortcut is "Control + Alt + Insert" from the pattern editor

Disk Browser :

- The Disk browser can be made bigger when needed by clicking on the "more" button.

Sample Editor :

- OS Sample-Clipboard support (Windows only): Exchange (Copy/paste) samples with your favorite sample editor

- Added mono mix modes to the "Adjust Sample" dialog

- Added "Copy into New Sample/Instrument" actions

- Added a "Mix-Paste" (modulate/add) action

- Better (unique) names for newly created or rendered samples

- Added a "markers" Snapping option which currently only snaps to the loop

- Added an option to auto-select the currently played back "sample split"
VST/Plugin related :

- Better performance and compatibility with VST instruments (less audio latency related crackles on Songs which use lots of VSTis)

- Pimped Plugin Browsers:

-- The browsers for Plugin FX and Instruments can be made bigger by clicking on the "more" button.

-- Plugins can be hidden, moved, and renamed (right click on the entries)

-- Plugins are now by default (this can be changed, right click) organized by manufacturer

- Added an option to skip searching for new Plugins on startup (to speed up startup on computers with huge Plugin collections)

- Added an Info button ("?") for VST Instruments as well (works just like the old ones for FX)

- Plugin compatibility options (such as multiprocessor behavior) can be changed by clicking on the info ("?") buttons

- Added a preset rename button for Plugin instruments

- Window positions of external interfaces are now memorized/restored with the song (external editors will open on the last used position on screen)
Internal FX :

- the "*LFO Device" "Reset" parameter can now be automated by other "*LFO Device"s or "*Velocity Device"s. This way you can automate/trigger the LFOs phase.

- the Stereo Expander got now a "Mono Mix" switch

- added a new Filter device: Filter 3, which replaces the old "Filter 2" device. The new filter has four models. All come with LowPass, HighShelf, BandPass, BandReject, LowShelf and HighPass) modes:

-- a standard, precise and fast 24dB Biquad filter

-- an experimental, fast and "fruity" 24dB Moog filter emulation

-- a 4 stage Butterworth filter, for precise and ultra sharp cutoffs

-- a 8 stage Butterworth filter, for ultra precise and ultra sharp cutoffs

Misc :

- Added "Show Log file" and "Show Preferences folder" in the help menu so that you can easily find Log/Preferences files on your computer

- Replaced the old "recent files" menu with "recently loaded" and "recently saved" file menu

- Autobackups now also save for "Untitled" (newly started) songs. The backups are saved in the Preferences folder.

- The clock is back ;) (in fullscreen mode)
And more :

+ Lots of small stuff/details which hopefully make composing even more fun...

de quoi passer de bonne soiree !

[error]

ah ben le routing moi ca m'interesse foutrement. c'était le truc qu'il me manquait grave jusqu'ici.

bon ben j'vais tester ça (javoue que ma 1.5 commençait a prendre la poussière ..)

[Napolecon]

bon je viens de le choper ça décoiffe, j'ai toujours penser que c'était réserver aux geeks bon c'est pas très intuitif mais ça vaut le coup de s'y mettre même si j'avoue en ayant tout lu du topic j'ai pas trop capté du coup ben j'ai cherché des tutoriels vidéos.

celui-ci est pas mal

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ5jTaXywuM

[2methylbulbe1ol]

rugerro dildo ton truc entouré à gauche ça permet d'affecter un instrument à une track.

Comme ça, quand tu changes de track, renoise te sélection l'instrument que tu as déjà utilisé dans cette colonne.

Enfin il me semble que c'est cela

[Napolecon]

ça serait cool que quelqu'un qui maîtrise fasse des tutos

[the Ultimate Phuzysist]

Je maîtrise (j'utilise plus que Renoise depuis 2003) et voici les meilleurs tutos -> http://tutorials.renoise.com/  

[tchétchène]

Bonjour!
voila je decouvre renoise depuis quelque jour et j'ai plusiers questions!!
ba j'arrive a balancer un note!
style E-400
après je n'arrive pas a modifier le volume , introduire le panning
et pour les effects : je n'arrive pas a les faire varrier j'arrive juste a avoir 000A 000B 000C .... jusque 000F
comment les modifiers?

après j'aimerais savoir comment faire pour jouer page par page 0 passé a la 1 juste après!

enfin je sais pas si je suis claire la!
 
si quelqu'un peux m'aider??

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http://affaku.free.fr/Tuto/Renoise/Renoise%20Wiki%20Tutorial%20Pages%20_%201_Renoise%20_%20Tracks_french%20translation%20by%20tobald.html

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j'sais pas vous mais je crois que l'époque des effets à taper en hexa est révolue
dans renoise y'a des effets natifs a foutre en DSP track (je crois), style VST, automatisables dans "automaton" assez simplement

En gros sur la portée tu n'as que ta note à taper