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Les nouveautés de la musique libre / [Siro354] 10Konekt - Toystory
« le: avril 09, 2012, 12:24:20 pm »


10Konekt - Toystory  (ZIP)

320kbps - April 2012
Circuit Bending / Experimental

Tracklist:
01- Toystory 1
02- Toystory 2
03- Toystory 3
04- Toystory 4
05- Toystory 5
06- Toystory 6
07- Toystory 7
08- Toystory 8
09- Toystory 9
10- Toystory 10
11- Toystory 11
Total: (43:41)

10Konekt Website
Sirona-Records Website

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Circuit bending bandits et diy / furby
« le: juin 29, 2011, 11:17:07 am »
hello les benders!
pour le son,il y a plusieurs fois le meme genre de bends sur le petit circuit imprimé en haut du furby si mes souvenirs sont bons.
sinon moyen aussi de mettre plein de leds sur ce modele de furby.
bonne recherche.
A+

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10Konekt more accustomed to the noise and the experiment has extracted for Lowtoy.
11 nice and fresh glitched tracks almost dancefloor.
All tracks recorded live and only made with circuit bent toys.

Tracklist:
1. Track 1
2. Track 2
3. Track 3
4. Track 4
5. Track 5
6. Track 6
7. Track 7
8. Track 8
9. Track 9
10. Track 10
11. Les Chients Ne Font Pas Des Chats

Total duration: 44'12''

FREE DOWNLOAD

LOWTOY

10Konekt

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[TSS012] The Studio Stereo - Ambientistik



Playlist files:

1. Paradeigma - Skripnula polovitsa (3:11)
2. Nevroz - Time Out (11:39)
3. Bombyx - Nausea (6:44)
4. Edgar Allen Fou - Four Voices in a Blizzard (8:26)
5. Dawamesk & Emy chauveau - Parking (5:39)
6. Nukua - Le someil (5:10)
7. Pavell Nikof ( drums by Naan ) - The one spliff song (6:57)
8. Sub-altern - Ivan (4:45)
9. Sanderson Dear - Communique (6:15)
10. 10konekt - Souffle (3:31)
11. Ruby My Dear - Getz Fakz (4:32)
12. Shepherd - Banish Preen (3:55)
13. Bishop Dust - 8 eater v3 (4:59)
14. RF061992 - Joke (2:31)
15. Marc Blanchard - Attention (6:33)
16. Alaif O - MinimumZeit (3:30)
17. The Marx Trukker - The Italian Verb (5:30)
18. PierrotheMoon - Owocow i warzyw (6:12)
19. Otist Reading - Matin (8:30)
20. Ak Patux - Navy violet (3:35)

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En écoute intégrale et en téléchargement libre sur Bandcamp et soundcloud.

> http://soundcloud.com/tss-1/sets/preview-tss-12-ambient-dark/

> http://tssberlin.bandcamp.com/album/ambientistik-tss-012

> http://thestudiostereo.tk/

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Peak the Source – ‘Volume 1-3′ / sPE_0100

suRRism-Phonoethics proudly presents:
Peak the Source Volume1-3 [suRRism-Phonoethics sPE_0100] all 3 Volumes include:
(ALL APPEARANCES HAVE BEEN SHUFFLED into 3 Volumes) _blank, (D)(B)(H), 10Konekt, Ama, Andrew Howes, Anton Mobin, Apocalyptic Frequency Experience, Ben Presto, Berger Rond, Big Brother on Acid, Bonequi, Bryan Lewis Saunders, Carlos Ramirez, Catalyst Fantasy, Crank Sturgeon, Dada AG, Daniel Jeczalik, Darius Greene, DMAH, Dpress Hill, Dysmal Abyss, Earth Incubator, Ergo Phizmiz, Erick Diego, GoatCuntCult, God Pussy, GX Jupitter-Larsen, Hal McGee, Herr Penschuck, Hopek Quirin, Hyaena Fierling Reich, i AM esper, Ian Linter, Ideosynchronic, Imago Meccano, Inconnu Ictu, ION, Isak Anderssen, J Karl Bogartte & Jaan Patterson, Jack Hertz, Jared Balogh, Jean Montag, Jeff Gburek, Jeremy Gluck & Dave Fuglewicz, Johannes Bergmark, John 3:16, Jonas Ruchenhever, José Carlos Alonso Vazquez, Juan Antonio Nieto, John Clifford Rhody, Justin Lee Brown, K.O.B, Kalendar, Kommissar Hjuler, Kommissar Hjuler & Frau mit Jaan Patterson, Koobaatoo Asparagus, Kristus Kut, Krupnik, Kuuleminen Asiat, LARA a’ Cappella, Lauris, Leif Elggren, Lezet, Ludo Mich, Luther Blissett, Lux P0g0, M.Mnomized, Macu, Matthew Sforcina, Mikhail Lezin, Mulinex, Murmurists, Mutant Beatniks, Mutate, Noise Research, noizeDemon, Nutrients, Olelé Brut, Ophir Ilzetzki, Otras Carpeta, Otto von Rhinau, Owl Brain Atlas, Pacific 231, PAS, Patrizia Oliva, Philippe Petit, Qkcofse, Radio Klebnikov, Rafal Iwanski, Ralf Rabendorn, Raymond Dijkstra, Reve Steich, Richard Lainhart, .RR, Runar Magnusson, Rune Martinsen, Sebastian Sighell, Seiei Jack, Sinus Buds, Spidey Agutter, Stalaktos, suRRism, Temple Music, Thamyris Jones & Jaan Patterson, The Curio Sideshow, The Distortion Mirrors, The Hare and The Moon, The Implicit Order, The Importance of Birds, The Noisettes, The Nothing Machine, The Panjandrum Of Quondam, Thee Virginal Brides, Thierry Tillier, Tobias Herzz Hallbauer, ToBo, Travis Johnson, Treillarmee, undRess Béton, Violence and the Sacred, Vladimír Hirsch, Wehwalt, Where Everything Falls Out, William Davison, Ymmv, Yoshihiro Kikuchi, Zacarias Malden, Zilmrah Zreen Toyz.

Receive your eligible copy here:Peak the Source – ‘Volume 1-3′ / sPE_0100

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aReW recordings netlabel announce release number thirty five (RW-035) available for free mp3 download. A various compilation of experimental ambient tracks featuring 13 tracks by 13 artists.

Take a listen and download your copy now at:aReW recordings presents sounds for the subconcious



RW-035
aReW presents sounds for the subconcious
format: mp3 (free download): 320kbps
Zip File Size: 151MB


Track Listing:

1) endote - for as long as I need you (6:27)
2) magenta lovecraft - revivify (6:50)
3) subversive intentions - day of anger (5:15)
4) der domestizierte mensch - deadly trance (3:57)
5) trans atlantic rage -RHYTHMIC RESIDUAL HAUNTING (3:45)
6) balogh - I.N.G. 12.5 (3:26)
7) lienullnoyz - communications part 4 (2:59)
8) noise level - shiva is sleeping (7:27)
9) 30-hcir - new beginning (ambient edit) (3:57)
10) extrasystole - suburb (8:22)
11) ReAkshen - flashback damage (3:49)
12) feltch - gamboth (9:32)
13) 10konekt - SubKonCYAN (4:21)

Run Time: 70 minutes approx

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Various - Cementimental Presents 1 Second Chipnoise Comp Which Took Way Too Long

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Tracklist
1   Gymnastic Decomposition  -     Your Sinclair, But Why?      
2   Machinery Of Nature  -     Samiano      
3   Tahnaiya Russell  -     3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751      
4   Nordloef  -     #000000      
5   Dispenser  -     Sonic4theme      
6   10konekt  -     SKratch'in      
7   AROTTENBIT  -     ANAL VOMIT      
8   Spike Of Anguirus  -     Respecting The Fall Out Line      
9   Ant2  -     Cool Music Is Made On Trackers (ReTetris Nanoloop Mix)      
10   Cementimental  -     Grassjelly      
11   Sons Of Charles Dexter Ward, The  -     Thing In The Pit      
12   Creeping Coins  -     Mahalito      
13   Rubbing Me  -     I Offer You This      
14   Bibjane  -     Nada Brama      
15   Platzangst  -     Asplode      
16   Nado  -     Flying Shitzu      
17   Pixel_play?  -     D;      
18   SIEBENTAUSENDARSCHGEIGEN  -     Jump The Mushroom [Atari TV Game Stick_FX]      
19   Virtually Boy  -     Blow On The Bottom      
20   MicroD  -     Resurrected By Bears      
21   Warning Broken Machine  -     8-Bitterness      
22   ÊbC  -     The ID3v2 Tag Contains More Data Than The Song Itself      
23   Overthruster  -     Clean Reflex      
24   Ore Mill Avenue  -     Game Glitch27      
25   Doctorheredoctor  -     Gottampootis      
26   Dsic  -     Dsic_8bit_1sec_warchest      
27   Sukieinthecave  -     G.K. Chesterton's Dream      
28   Christ Malfunction  -     S(h)at(e)anism      
29   Droid Song  -     Maywood Police Punch.      
30   GABBERMENT  -     ChipNvasion [Atari TV Game Stick_FX]      
31   Furagwa  -     Though I Have Nothing To Say, I Will Say It Like This!      
32   Love Through Cannibalism  -     Andrea Ruiz (Amenizando)      
33   Derek Piotr  -     Cowfaced Drama Teacher Tapping Across A Sewer Grate      
34   Allan Zane  -     1-second_track      
35   4mat  -     Galaxy_inversion      
36   Egg Bleet  -     Final Zog      
37   Ninjanerd  -     Dance Bobble Bitch!      
38   Tonylight  -     Norides      
39   Spindle (2)  -     Your Life Can Change In One Second      
40   Capstan Drive  -     Home Is Where The Hiss Is      
41   Ui (3)  -     Galactic Bombil      
42   Patent Pending  -     Epicorchestral      
43   Max Leonard Hitchings  -     Chip Noise Second      
44   Nightshade (7)  -     Fade Away      
45   Subscape Annex  -     Warble      
46   Timeheater  -     Yes      
47   SEEPFERDEFAHRGAESTERADIOSHOW ft. HERRJOERGRITTER  -     Six Pixel Submarine [Atari TV Game Stick_FX]      
48   xXxXXxxxX385wannabeesXxxxXXxXx  -     Hipster      
49   Bit Shifter  -     Four Sirius      
50   Jesus Seashell  -     Yo Ratcat      
51   Naxat  -     Hark! The Unholy Vastness Approaches!      
52   Catch The Red Lights  -     Sometimes I Try      
53   Vargalinguist  -     For Pkt Ack (Calamity Jane IDM Remix)      
54   Chip Pooner  -     What I Think Of Unicorn Kid      
55   RJ Myato  -     Tim Drage's Animes      
56   Glochid  -     Pink Punching      
57   Super Dimension Fortress  -     Seussian Doctor      
58   Svelte Velvet  -     Blacklight Grinding      
59   Leave Mule Iron  -     Game Glitch Bass      
60   Fantomenk  -     Let's Kick Shell      
61   Blohard  -     Crash Landing      
62   MicroE  -     Ex Static      
63   Dum Name  -     Tatatat      
64   A.R.GH  -     This Is Awesome      
65   I, Cocktus  -     Cyan Cactus      
66   goto80  -     Sponsored By Gatorade      
67   Robot Jox  -     Fist's Of Steel      
68   Healthcare  -     Roller      
69   Gore Beyond Necromancy  -     Joey's Twin      
70   Struktur  -     HS      
71   ne7^triad  -     1000 (C64 6581 Sidchip)      
72   Scissor Shock  -     8 Tit      
73   Denis McCarty  -     DB505-1SLT      
74   Kreamy 'Lectric Santa  -     Tape Miff      
75   Gibson's Ghost  -     Cyber Punks Not Dead      
76   DEDan (4)  -     Jizn Ne Vechna      
77   Apophallation  -     416SS      
78   Death, Sex... And Possibly Zombies  -     1 Is A Third Of The Magic Number      
79   Oliver Emanuel  -     Drum Break      
80   Verl Splurt  -     708674741      
81   Not Breathing  -     Fucking Curbing R2D2 To The Curb      
82   Klaptrap  -     R.K      
83   Derseem  -     Stab      
84   Dieselhog  -     Titanium      
85   UNAS  -     Fake NES Ov The Trve Beast      
86   Goldenrod City  -     Okay, Let Me Just      
87   Seesar  -     Riding The Goblin Horse      
88   Mysogynistic Bumsplat  -     Minute (maɪ'n(j)ut) Minute (ˈmɪnɪt) Waltz      
89   Bittermore  -     This Godless Eight Bit Endeavor In One Second      
90   Andr00  -     In The Nude For Moodles (6581 R4)      
91   Dennis Ward  -     Brazil 1984      
92   Grabule@hotmail.com  -     1sec_chip01      
93   Yalt  -     Surge      
94   Feckapede  -     Kcuff      
95   TriForm Deer Suspensions  -     Mr Whippy's Moth-Bitten Curtain      
96   Mortal (4)  -     LSDJ Chiptunes Are Fun      
97   Nada Zipp  -     Micro Mass      
98   PixlCrushr  -     The Predicament Of Silence And Awkwardness Though Nothing Much Can Be Said At The Given Moment      
99   Pigswill  -     Level 4      
100   P1XL Games  -     Square Popcorn      
101   Rabbit Girls  -     Mock Opera      
102   Le Scrambled Debutante  -     1-second Track      
103   Marie2  -     Fastloader      
104   Thretris  -     Seculant      
105   Locks  -     Facebomb      
106   MicroF  -     Preserver      
107   Junebird  -     Something      
108   I See Dead Pixels  -     Final Decision      
109   Argh (2)  -     Argharghargh      
110   Jumpsuit  -     Enniscorthy      
111   Rock Organ  -     8 Bit Organ      
112   BBBlood  -     Broken Bit      
113   eraritjaritjaka  -     絶対領域      
114   Half An Abortion  -     1234      
115   Aditya Jayanthi  -     Jinsei      
116   Go Go Idaho  -     Down Socrates      
117   Crank Sturgeon  -     Cavi Wince, Y'are, Y'are      
118   Shoe Legend  -     Money Making Machine      
119   Jellica  -     SOMBA      
120   Spandex Heroes Inc.  -     Blightmaster Levels Up      
121   Carlos Lemosh  -     American Pie      
122   Rocket Racer  -     My Fuel's Completely Exhausted But I'm Gonna Keep Flying As If Nothing Ever Happened In Fact It's Going Pretty Swell If You Ask Me      
123   Tan40  -     Tool Music Is Made On Crackers      
124   Public Domain (7)  -     Weaken      
125   Maneuver Lie Lo  -     Game Glitch52      
126   Disthroned Agony  -     Back Of The Thumb      
127   Estersands  -     Boss Approaching      
128   Deadbeat  -     Deadbox      
129   Zomvor  -     Kiniz Delta      
130   Ghandi (6)  -     Say What      
131   Philip K Has No Dick  -     Tusk Foundation      
132   Daisy (16)  -     Rich Tea Or Digestive      
133   R-13 Ampleforth  -     Chip1      
134   Raytownian(s), The  -     Maximum HarshNES      
135   SuperBustySamuraiMonkey  -     Rapid      
136   Cheapmachines  -     Aan      
137   Cassilda's Curse  -     The Yellow Sign      
138   Playing_pixel?  -     Skeptic Breakdown      
139   SK1 (2)  -     Shit Spree      
140   Fluxorgy  -     Fluxorgy's Chips      
141   Cybercrime  -     You've Been Fiending With My Cat Again      
142   Black Paul (2)  -     Christopher Lee As Count Dracula      
143   Kami68k  -     Yahoo Japan Auctions      
144   Ly (2)  -     BigchestedNinjaApe      
145   YosHIanDYOshI  -     YoshiCORE      
146   Dataswitch  -     Hypno GB Love (Loopable)      
147   Henry's Postal Service  -     Interstellar Brain Canister      
148   BitCrux  -     Abort-fetuslife      
149   Anton Mobin  -     U Win      
150   Sneedlehog  -     Spellcrusher      
151   Max Farnea  -     Instant Pleasure      
152   2xAA  -     GBCamRPG      
153   Ant2  -     Cool Music Is Made On Trackers      
154   I Contain Guitars  -     What It's Not Like You're Gonna Complain About It      
155   Gun Nac  -     Dead Galaxy      
156   APATHYANDTHEMURDEROFTOMORROW  -     LERNTOSPELL      
157   se§hor El Shit  -     My Bong Broke      
158   DJ Lower Intestines  -     I Already Submitted A Track But Don't Tell Anyone      
159   Giant Albino Penguins, The  -     Teki Li Li!      
160   J.M. Bowers  -     Eight Bit Universal, One Second Eternal      
161   Cable Club  -     Air Filter      
162   Gaps  -     Leave Space      
163   Technical Protection ft. Atomic Jets  -     The Title Of This Song Has Eighty Eight Characters (Including Spaces And This Sentence).      
164   uper Mecha Ultra Xenagon II  -     Tim Drage Sent Me My Electric Tootbrush Through Royal Mail And Probably Made A Song Title About It      
165   Toxic Nads  -     Trust Fund Maybe      
166   His8  -     A View To Remember      
167   Promute  -     Airer      
168   Nestrogen  -     The Volume Column Is Bogus!      
169   Creature Who In The Waking World Used to be Pickman, The  -     Ball Of Light In The Pine Barrens      
170   MYZER  -     SFX ZONE 993AFF      
171   Joneses, The (2)  -     Let Us All Enjoy This Special Moment We're Sharing Together      
172   Love Urine Meal  -     Game Glitch Loop2 A      
173   ZAZI  -     Gush      
174   Captain Chaos (3)  -     Hyperduck 23 Bitches      
175   Abominable Mr Tinkler, The  -     Righteous Block      
176   Pkt Ack  -     For Calamity Jane      
177   Noisettes, The  -     Basic Hues      
178   Decktonic  -     One Second      
179   Amen Sister  -     Dino Thunder      
180   Interstates (Etc.)  -     Fuckwave      
181   Large Bits Collider  -     $Rgyt••      
182   Fist Taker  -     Harsh Brick      
183   Nice Kitty And The Bad Cat, The  -     THE B345T      
184   Rectal Necrosis  -     Digital Diarrhea      
185   Khades  -     You Suffer (Napalm Death Cover)      
186   Gibbering Fiend  -     Call To Worship      
187   Varan The Unbelievable  -     Sidbow      
188   Make-a-wish Foundation, The  -     I Want To Be On A Noise Comp Before I Die      
189   Wisdom (8)  -     Within A Second      
190   Suicibit  -     DEATH      
191   Buskerdroid  -     Supernova      
192   Mutant Beatnick  -     Ulipo      
193   Guanoman  -     In That Rancid Yet Sexy Moment I Was Reborn      
194   That Old Lady On Your Street  -     Sweater Dog Porn      
195   Are We There Yet  -     Scum Klapper      
196   Little-scale  -     Rock Thrower!      
197   Power Smoothie  -     Vertical Lift      
198   Glitchfish  -     Op Wintersport      
199   Jazzbit Mode  -     This Is Not A Teaser I Swars It      
200   Cotton (6)  -     Desdemona      
201   MonsieurLewis  -     PikaPikachuu      
202   Judas Barnacle  -     My New Timecat      
203   Knightronize  -     A Dark Studio With Little Neon Lights Hanging      
204   HuiBunD  -     Ghuero      
205   Godinpants  -     Hip To Be Square      
206   Das Hype Machine  -     A Cosmonaut's Rise And Fall      
207   Mega Dirt  -     Ikanari Plopper      
208   JayTresh  -     Bad Load      
209   Monseigneur Le Shit  -     Maybe Ill Be A Blue Piano      
210   Blackfour  -     Chalice Practice      
211   Sick To The Back Teeth  -     Kicked To The Curb By Frau Nobody      
212   Nascent Error Generation  -     Masochistic Barbering Circle Of Juggernauts      
213   Mr. Hilter  -     Mr. Hilter's Victory Theme      
214   OCP (2)  -     Flipado      
215   Mary (36)  -     The Trouble With Triangle Waves      
216   James Chown  -     Clucky Chicken (GameBoyCameraDJ)      
217   Pandotrix!  -     Gone Fishing In Arabia      
218   Other Ones, The (5)  -     Conversation On Dark Mountain      
219   Zan-zan-zawa-veia  -     Vnyl Gawd      
220   黒い傘 (Kuro Kasa) 緑  -     (Midori)      
221   Kamal Sabran  -     KS Tune      
222   Skin Walker  -     How To Howl      
223   Willbe  -     1 Second K.O      
224   ☺ (3)  -     Fun Factory©      
225   Ubey  -     Botgot      
226   Irrlicht Project  -     1.2nd.stspk      
227   Corporal Robot Lips  -     Yesterday I Forget The What My Name Is      
228   Rain Rien  -     A Second Whale For Tim Drage      
229   Yncor  -     Quartz      
230   Rush Coil  -     So Much For The Massacre      
231   Overthruster  -     Yeah      
232   MAT64  -     Killing The Two-headed Squirrel With A Butter Knife      
233   Lissajou  -     Libellules      
234   Nestroyer  -     Rockashocka      
235   Russolo  -     ^%$#      
236   Travis Johnson (2)  -     So Many Lives      
237   c-c  -     Bring It      
238   ADF (3)  -     Do Not Compute Or Else      
239   Remora  -     Major      
240   Fuckjazzforaminute (Or A Second)  -     The Song That Doesn't End (Until The Second Is Over)      
241   FearofDark  -     1,000,000,000,000 Picoseconds Of Funk      
242   Nanodrone  -     Dubme      
243   Ironing  -     Whistle Thrush      
244   Emil Beaulieau with Pat Rubbish  -     One Second Past Old As Fuck      
245   Milted  -     Actually      
246   Cranial Drill  -     We Were All Wounded At Wounded Knee      
247   Acillej  -     Some More Asid      
248   Zyron  -     Glärb      
249   d0us  -     R0ck2dacheddandebaseya      
250   Rubbish  -     Just A Two Bit No Account Scum2      
251   Nq(slash)skrju*  -     Slow Magic      
252   Mayan Plow  -     Advance      
253   Robert, Shaun  -     1 Second Voice Track      
254   Is That A Nun On Your Conscience Or Are You Just Pleased To Flay Me  -     Let This Be Love      
255   Appendages Non Gratis  -     Curt      
256   My Lovely Figment  -     Shit Hits The Fan... And All In All Its Not Too Bad Once You Get Out The Club Soda      
257   Amber Room, The  -     BREAK_FAST      
258   Partially Formed Ghoul  -     Death's Charm Bracelet      
259   Thurstone Moore's Record Collection  -     Staggeringly Pretentious And Meaningless Psychobabble      
Credits
Compiled By - Cementimental
 smiley14

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ca424 - 10KoneKt VS MIXoLIVe - 10KoLIVe

Artist: 10KoneKt VS MIXoLIVe
Title: 10KoLIVe
#ca424
Date: 2011-02-15
Keywords: live electronic; free improv; circuit bending; experimental; noise
(320 kbps)
Tracklist:
01 - #ff1017 - 11:25
02 - #c0fc04 - 15:53
03 - #8f8f8e - 15:26
04 - #d40f2f - 15:30


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10KoLIVe is the result of collaboration between 10Konekt & MIXOLIVE.
All tracks recorded live in november 2010.
Artwork by StruKtur.

10Konekt: duo of sonic manipulators and circuit benders.
   
MIXOLIVE: experimental solo project based on looped guitars and various sonic materials.

Contact:
http://www.myspace.com/10konekt
http://www.myspace.com/mixolive
http://clinicalarchives.blogspot.com/

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Chouilles / 09/07/2010 - Musique / Son / Bruit @LYON'S HALL
« le: juillet 08, 2010, 12:19:18 pm »
A 2MAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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merci encore a tous pour cette soirée!!!!
A+
10konekt.

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Cat # : P36-049
10Konekt - Tears Of Toys
Date: 24 June 2010
Genre: Noise, Bending
Run time: 44m 07s
06 Tracks

All tracks made with circuit bent instruments.../...

http://pavillon36recordings.blogspot.com/2006/06/p36-049.html
http://www.myspace.com/10konekt
http://www.virb.com/10konekt

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Chouilles / Placard 10KO 8/9 Mai
« le: mai 06, 2010, 22:48:44 pm »
A samedi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Les nouveautés de la musique libre / Amr296 10konekt - Radiation EP
« le: avril 08, 2010, 22:18:04 pm »
yes,quelle culture!!!!!   smiley4

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